What’s Your Definition of the Devil?

This post is mostly in reply to several of the comments people have posted arguing against Gay Marriage.

Just a quick thought for you. According to LDS doctrine, how did Satan come to be? Well when God proposed that the world be created Lucifer said that he would FORCE everyone to do the “right” thing so that they would return to live with God, and all the glory would be his. Think about that for a minute, he did not become Satan by trying to get people to be evil, that was a result of his being cast out. He became Satan by trying to MAKE people be “good.” According to LDS doctrine, Jesus became the Messiah by wanting people to be able to make their own choices.

Now how would you describe trying to outlaw this new civil rights movement with Gay Marriage? Would you call it forcing people? Or would you call it being Christ-like? Just some food-for-thought.


6 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by ali on November 23, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    oh my.
    well, speaking from a catholic upbringing, satan and hell and the whole gambit were initially put in place to “fear” you into doing the right thing, rather that just simply doing the right thing because it was good. so the devil was kind of like the ultimate boogeyman who scared you into doing good. kind of like god is always there watching you so you don’t trip up; like the ultimate security camera.

    naturally, i don’t think any action against lgbt people has been christ-like in the least. it doesn’t show love, compassion, or any of that biblical good stuff. just political bullying.

    trained from a young enough age, you can “see” the devil in damn near everything. it’s really quite sad. cleaving the world into good and evil can be such a dangerous thing to do.


  2. I’m pretty sure the Devil is at This is the Place park. Look at the line spearing through my head in this picture!!!
    What in the name of Damien is that blue line spearing thru my head?!


    Whenever I hear people fret about protecting their children from the Devil, I want to ask them if they know who is getting picked on at their kids’ school — and whether their precious kids have ever stuck up for that person.

    If you’re looking for the Devil, check his favorite dark corner: inaction.


    See today’s Utah discovery at http://www.findingslc.com.


  3. That’s why my sign for the first protest said

    “Satan had a plan to make everyone do the “right” thing and to strip them of their free will.”


  4. This is the story I learned in Sunday School as a child (LDS) and it never ceases to amaze me that a majority of the LDS do not see the hypocrisy.


  5. Posted by Kyle on November 24, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    So, I guess standing up for what we believe in would consider us evil? No matter what comes along in life we should all just sit back and never let any opposition enter our hearts. If there were no opposition, there would be no free will. There has to be opposition in all things. Satan’s way is to have all opposition vanquished. People voted in a legitimate democratic process. They voiced their opinion. Where is the “evil” in that? Take a look at your own hypocrisy. You speak of love, and that hate is not to be found in the LGBT community. What about all the vandalism on temple grounds by protesters and not to mention all the destruction of church property and threating mail. Who is being attacked here? It seems we all have different views as to what is evil and what is good in this world.


  6. Posted by ethingtoneric on November 25, 2008 at 10:53 pm


    Sorry, but you cannot compare taking away anothers civil rights to some idiot with a can of spray paint. You want to stand up for what you believe in? You want to show that you’re a Christian? Then go out and befriend people and tell them about your opinions. I would never vote to make your marriage or religion illegal, even if I didn’t agree with them. So what makes you better than us that you get to do that?

    Sooner or later, people in this country will wake up and realize that they are no better than those they currently deem lesser citizens.


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