Churches continue to complain about Prop 8 backlash

This will be quick, but I’m getting a little tired of the churches who were a part of the coalition supporting Prop 8 complaining about being protested. What did they think was going to happen?

I think any organization should have the foresight to know that if they start getting involved with a movement that involves individuals rights, there are going to be big consequences. Regardless of what side of this issue you are on, you must understand that to the people trying to get them, these same-sex marriages are valid, and mean just as much to them as marriages do to heterosexuals. What kind of protests and emotion would arise if straight couple’s marriages were all of a sudden called into question?

I just think it’s foolish for a church to push against others private lives in such a broad-stroke and all imposing way, and then be shocked and outraged when the community pushes back.


4 responses to this post.

  1. I guess the separation of church and state only applies when churches want it to, but like you I recently wrote about churches feeling the backlash of their support for proposition 8. It’s irrational to me that the people that preach most about equality and treating their entire flock equally can stand against one part of the community because of their sexual orientation. I just hop that more people like you see this and continue reminding people that it’s okay to think and vote with your conscience.


  2. “This will be quick, but I’m getting a little tired of the churches who were a part of the coalition supporting Prop 8 complaining about being protested. What did they think was going to happen?”

    I don’t know that most were prepared for the massive protesting that is (as far as I can think of) near unprecedented in the wake of a proposition defeat. I can’t think of another proposition where the proponents of the unsuccessful side have been so bold and enraged as to engage in such demonstrations. If it has happened before, no examples come to mind.

    That being said, I have read stats that offer that the homosexual population base of California is likely as big or bigger than the Mormon population. All things being equal, one would suspect that the gay population would have been able to capitilize on greater support from Hollywood and the non-Cali gay community as well.

    Either way, in the wake of a loss, a movement likely does better to plan for the next election, rather than vent and rage at the winners. The sum total of these protests from where I sit (so far) have been to produce a great number of photographs and youtube clips of folks who look too well enraged to be sympathetic characters. Note to protestors: the nun costumes at protests and outlandish drag make-up is NOT great PR.


  3. Simply put – the Mormons have proved with their complete obsession with PROP 8 to be a Tax-Exempt Hate Group.

    Heterosexuals – You better wake up. Instead of pondering a cerebral concept like how gays want the “1,138 rights of marriage”, you need to educate yourselves about the CONSEQUENCES when one or more of those 1,138 rights are denied. GOOGLE “Freeheld” or “Tying the Knot”; watch the DVDs. Write it down now.

    Your laws HATE us, and we’ve had it! Yes, I did said HATE – I stand by it. Because how else can you explain these 3 realities?:

    A police woman loses her life in the line of duty; her wife of 13 years is denied all pension benefits.

    A rancher loses his husband of 22 years; his inlaws evict him and try to take the home he built and lived in with his beloved.

    A detective spends 25 years risking her own life while protecting society; she has to spend her remaining days on this earth worrying whether her earned pension will be transferred to her wife (while living with terminal cancer).

    YES, H-A-T-E. And your silence on this matter is a serious affront to our families’s safety and security. FAMILY – isn’t that a cherished concept in the U.S.A.?

    So now after decades of disinterest, some of us in the LGBTI community have AWAKENED. And we will refuse to pay one penny of income tax to the IRS until the government (i.e. – you) decide you WANT our tax dollars as EQUAL CITIZENS.

    This ain’t a vote.
    This ain’t a debate.
    This ain’t a popularity contest.

    You will PAY OUR TAXES until we have what your family ALREADY HAS; your apathy is costing you money as you read this.



  4. How to appeal the IRS to review the LDS church’s 501c3 tax exempt status.

    Hello Eric. I met you at Greenhouse twice and had you play Theatre of Disco. Nice blog you’ve got here.


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