Interesting thought process my friend

Always amusing to hear people say, “You’re prejudiced against us just because we donated millions of dollars towards denying you of the civil rights we already enjoy!” Do you really think your arguments ever work? Do you think they’re actually reasonable? How can you justify acting like a bigot towards another person, and then act surprised when there’s a backlash?

Eric Ethington

I for one am sick and tired of my tax dollars going to suppliment anything that goes against my moral beliefs. Proposition 8 is a marriage bad, and thats it. It does not go against the gay and lesbian relationship, just against marriage.

Why don’t you guys protest the catholic archdioces or the southern baptists who gave money. Why are you protesting the Latter day saints? I guess your just as biggoted as the Klan.

Thank you,
Philip B Kirschner
Brooklyn, NY

Up to this point I have approved all comments from both of you. However, at this point I’m going to have to insist that your discussion remain civil. I am not saying that you are not making good points, I just want to make sure that nothing gets out of hand. Thank you so much for reading, and I’m thrilled that these discussions are going on!

-ethingtoneric

You know, trying to claim I used “derogatory words” (I didn’t) and made “ignorant arguments” (I didn’t) as an excuse for censoring a comment that you didn’t agree with, is such a standard excuse, isn’t it?

I didn’t censor your comment on my blog, nor remove the link. I did add an editorial note, when it was clear you would not allow dissenting opinions in your discussion, to make that clear to others so that they wouldn’t waste their time writing a comment that you would not allow to appear.

are children from unmarried heterosexual couples legally discriminated against?

Now you’re trying to argue that legal marriage makes no difference whatsoever to children? That’s not what you say on your blog, is it?

Either you believe having married parents makes a positive difference in the lives of their children, or you don’t. On your blog, you seemed to be arguing that it did, and arguing from there that the children of same-sex couples couldn’t be allowed to have any part of that benefit.

That is true, right now people have the right to get married heterosexually. But what about the right to marry the people that they love? What about the happiness that people can have in life by proclaiming their love for their partner?

The argument that they can marry, as long as they marry who society tells them to marry, is still discrimination wouldn’t you say?

if you write an argument that actually contributes to the discussion instead of simply using derogatory words and ignorant arguments–then i will post.

are children from unmarried heterosexual couples legally discriminated against?

Then why are you supporting Proposition 8, which ensures that some families aren’t entitled to equal protection under the law? If children are important to you, why argue that some children deserve to be legally discriminated against because of their parents’ sexual orientation?

And why call your blog “prop8discussion” when you censor dissenting opinions from it?

gender matters. it especially matters in parenting.

i voted for prop 8 because i see traditional marriage as our society’s ultimate expression of equality: it takes one woman and one man.

i think this is important especially when it comes to parenting. as a woman, the issue of families and children is really important to me. it’s important to me that my state do everything it can to protect families.

a mom and a dad create the best possible situation for children. the government has an interest in promoting and providing incentives for this situation.

facts about LDS church involvement:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38669132820&ref=nf

facts about history of religious separation:

http://preservingmarriage.blogspot.com/2008/11/prop-8-american-history-lesson.html